Description

An improved 65 mm/50 anti-torpedo boat gun designed and manufactured by Schneider that replaced the older 65 mm guns on ships built after 1902. These guns were seen as being ineffective against the larger destroyers built soon after these guns were introduced into service and were supplanted by the larger 75 mm guns. Some of these 65 mm guns were still in service during World War II.

Gun Characteristics

Designation 65 mm/50 Mle 1902
Ship Class Used On Battleship: République and Liberté classes
Armored Cruisers: Edgar Quinet and Ernest Renan classes
Destroyers/Torpedo Boats: Branlebas, Chasseur, Claymore, Bisson, Enseigne-Roux, Spahi and Voltigeur classes
Date Of Design 1902
Date In Service 1907
Gun Weight 1,310 lbs. (594 kg)
Gun Length oa 136.0 in (3.450 m)
Bore Length 128.0 in (3.250 m)
Rifling Length N/A
Grooves (26) 0.016 in deep x 0.59 in wide (0.5 x 1.5 mm)
Lands N/A
Twist Inclination 5 degrees
Chamber Volume 128.0 in3 (2.254 dm3)
Rate Of Fire about 10 rounds per minute

Ammunition

Type Fixed
Projectile Types and Weights CI: 8.82 lbs. (4.00 kg)
Steel: 9.19 lbs. (4.170 kg)
Bursting Charge CI: 0.43 lbs. (0.195 kg) Black Powder
Steel: 0.17 lbs. (0.075 kg) Black Powder + 0.22 lbs. (0.100 kg) Melinite
Projectile Length CI: about 72.9 in (18.5 cm)
Steel: 85.7 in (21.8 cm)
Propellant Charge 3.14 lbs. (1.425 kg) BM5
Muzzle Velocity 2,850 fps (870 mps)
Working Pressure 17.8 tons/in2(2,800 kg/cm2)]
Approximate Barrel Life N/A
Ammunition stowage per gun N/A

Range

Range with 9.2 lbs. (4.17 kg) projectiles
Elevation Distance
20 degrees about 8,750 yards (8,000 m)

Mount/Turret Data

Designation Single Center Pivot:
   Battleships: (13)
   Armored Cruisers: Edgar Quinet (20) and Ernest Renan (16)
   Destroyers: Branlebas (1), Chasseur (6), Claymore (1), Bisson (4), Enseigne-Roux (4), Spahi (6) and Voltigeur (6)
Weight N/A
Elevation About -15 / +20 degrees
Rate of Elevation N/A
Train Destroyers: About -150 / +150 degrees
Broadside Mounts: About +30 / +150 to either side
Rate of Train N/A
Gun Recoil N/A
Loading Angle Any angle

Sources

"Naval Weapons of World War Two" by John Campbell
"Naval Weapons of World War One" by Norman Friedman
"French Armoured Cruisers: 1887 - 1932" by John Jordan and Philippe Caresse

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