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The mountings for this weapon were lightly built in order to give them the lowest possible moment of inertia and thus the highest possible speeds for manual training and elevation. As a result, these guns had about one-third the moment of inertia for train as did the 5"/51 (12.7 cm) anti-torpedo boat mountings. This requirement led to a short barrel in order to keep the weight down, which in turn resulted in a relatively low muzzle velocity, but this was considered to be acceptable for an AAA weapon. In the early 1930s these guns were briefly considered for arming new construction destroyers, but they were ultimately rejected in favor of a new design, the famous 5"/38 (12.7 cm) Mark 12. On 15 February 1942 while escorting a convoy near Timor, USS Houston (CA-30) was attacked by nine Kawanishi H6K Type 97 ("Mavis") four-engine flying boats and thirty-six Mitsubishi Ki-21 Type 97 ("Sally") twin-engine bombers. Houston claimed to have shot down seven of these aircraft with her 5"/25 (12.7 cm) guns, firing a total of 930 rounds during the 45 minute action. All early models were constructed using a monobloc barrel. The prototype was a Mark 3 Mod 0 cut down to 25 calibers and then designated as Mark 3 Mod 3. The Mark 10 Mod 0 had an autofretted barrel with a threaded and shrunk-on housing and used a vertical semi-automatic sliding breech block. the Mark 10 Mod 1 used a threaded barrel keyed to the housing. Mark 10 Mod 3 had part of the left housing cut away to ease loading. The Mark 11 added chromium plating to the bore. Mark 13 was similar to the Mark 11, but the barrel and housing were joined by a bayonet joint to allow easy barrel replacement, a feature found in all subsequent US 5" (12.7 cm) designs. The Mark 17 was a "wet mount" version for submarines and was unusual in that it did not require breech or muzzle plugs. This was because it used a special liner resistant to corrosion from sea water and could thus be submerged and flooded without harm to the gun. The Mark 17 Mod 0 used a tube of higher strength steel than that used for earlier Marks with a shrunk forged copper-nickel alloy liner. The Mark 17 Mod 1 was a bored out Mark 13 Mod 0 fitted with a tapered copper-nickel alloy liner and used semi-fixed ammunition in order to ease handling on submarines. Both Mark 17 mods had chrome-plated bores and neither had the pneumatic rammers used on other Marks. This was acceptable as the Mark 40 mounting used on submarines was an SP type with a maximum elevation of 40 degrees. |
5"/25 (12.7 cm) AA guns on USS New Mexico
BB-44 in June 1944
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| Designation | 5"/25 (12.7 cm) Marks 10, 11, 13 and 17 |
| Ship Class Used On | Nevada (BB-36), Pennsylvania (BB-38),
New Mexico (BB-40), Tennessee (BB-43), Colorado (BB-45), Pensacola (CA-24),
Northampton (CA-26), New Orleans (CA-32), Portland (CA-33) and Brooklyn
(CL-40) classes
Submarines in the 1940s |
| Date Of Design | 1921 |
| Date In Service | 1926 |
| Gun Weight | Barrel Weight (all except Mark 17):
2,105 lbs. (955 kg)
Barrel Weight (Mark 17): 2,163 lbs. (981 kg) Weight with housing: about 4,270 lbs. (1,937 kg) |
| Gun Length oa | 142.25 in (3.613 m) |
| Bore Length | 125 in (3.175 m) |
| Rifling Length | 98.1 in (2.492 m) |
| Grooves | (45) 0.05 in deep (1.27 mm) |
| Lands | N/A |
| Twist | Uniform RH 1 in 25 |
| Chamber Volume | 431 in3 (7.06 dm3) |
| Rate Of Fire | 15 - 20 rounds per minute |
| Type | All except the Mark 17: Fixed
Mark 17: Separate |
| Weight of Complete Round | about 80 lbs. (36.3 kg) |
| Projectile Types and Weights
(see Note 1) |
HC Mark 36 - 53.85 lbs. (24.43 kg)
AAC Mark 28 Mods 1 to 8 - 54.0 lbs. (24.49 kg) AAC Mark 36 - 53.85 lbs. (24.43 kg) VT AAC Mark 28 Mod 9 - 51.7 lbs. (23.45 kg) VT AAC Mark 26 Mods 2 and 4 - 54 lbs. (24.49 kg) Illum Mark 25 Mod 2 - 54.5 lbs. (24.7 kg) Illum Mark 27 Mods 1 to 4 - 53.65 lbs. (24.33 kg) Illum Mark 27 Mods 5 to 10 - 54.5 lbs. (27.7 kg) Illum Mark 45 Mod 0 - 54.5 lbs. (27.7 kg) |
| Bursting Charge | AAC Mark 28 - 7.33 lbs. (3.32 kg) Explosive
D, Composition A
AAC Mark 36 - 7.25 lbs. (3.29 kg) Explosive D, Composition A |
| Projectile Length | AAC, HC and VT AAC - 20.70 in (52.6 cm)
Illum - 20.0 in (50.8 cm) |
| Cartridge Case Type, Size and Empty Weight | Mark 4 Mod 0 - Brass, 127 x 626 mm, 14.44
lbs. (6.55 kg)
Mark 4 Mod 2 - Brass, 127 x 626 mm, 11.40 lbs. (5.17 kg) |
| Propellant Charge
(see Note 4) |
9.6 lbs. (4.35 kg) SPD or SPDN |
| Muzzle Velocity | 2,155 fps (657 mps) |
| Working Pressure | 16.7 tons/in2 (2,630 kg/cm2) |
| Approximate Barrel Life
(see Note 3) |
3,000 rounds |
| Ammunition stowage per gun | about 200 rounds |
| Notes:
1) The AAC Mark 28 and AAC Mark 36 projectile bodies could be used with Point Detonating (PD), Mechanical Time (MT) or with proximity (VT) fuzes. When used with PD fuzes, they were considered to be HC rounds. As the VT fuze was larger than the other ones, only certain projectile Mods could use it. 2) AAC rounds used both nose and base fuzes. The base fuze was an instantaneous contact type while the nose fuze was a adjustable time delay type. A blind plug was used in place of the base fuze for those projectiles using VT nose fuzes. 3) I believe this life figure to be for the non-plated bore version. The figure for weapons with chromium plated bores would be about 20% higher. 4) Fixed and separate ammunition used the same propellant weights. Some SPD and SPDN cartridges had flashless pellets added which gave them a "reduced" flash. |
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| Elevation | With 53.85 lbs. (24.43 kg) HE Shell |
| Range @ 40 degrees | 14,200 yards (12,980 m) |
| Range @ 45 degrees | 14,500 yards (13,259 m) |
| AA Ceiling @ 85 degrees | 27,400 feet (8,352 m) |
| Note: The Mark 40 submarine mount had a maximum elevation of 40 degrees. | |
| Designation
(see Notes 5 and 8) |
Pedestal Single Mounting
Nevada (12), Pennsylvania (8), New Mexico (8), Tennessee (8), Colorado (8), Pensacola (4), Northampton (8), Portland (8), New Orleans (8) and Brooklyn (8): Marks 17, 19, 23 and 27 Single Wet Mounting
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| Weight | Mark 23: 21,670 lbs. (9,829 kg)
Mark 27: 23,270 lbs. (10,555 kg) Mark 40: 12,600 to 14,000 lbs. (5,715 to 6,350 kg) |
| Elevation | Marks 17, 19, 23 and 27: -15
/ +85 degrees
Mark 19 mods 24, 25 and 26: -10 / +85 degrees Mark 40: -10 / +40 degrees |
| Elevation Rate | Mark 27: 30 degrees per second
Others: Manual operation, only |
| Train | All except Mark 40: about +150 /
-150 degrees
Mark 40: +158 / -158 degrees |
| Train Rate | Mark 27: 20 degrees per second
Others: Manual operation, only |
| Gun recoil
(see Notes 3 and 4) |
12 to 24 inches (30 to 61 cm) |
| Notes:
1) The Mark 17 was the first USN heavy AA mount and had a trunnion height of 60 inches (152 cm), but no platform for the loader. The Mark 19 added the loader's platform and raised the trunnion height to 66 inches (168 cm). The Mark 27 was a power driven mount and generally had RPC. 2) The elevation and training speeds shown above for the Mark 27 mounting were for automatic (director) mode, in local mode they were 32.6 and 22.0 degrees per second, respectively. 3) The Mark 40 was a wet mount for submarines. Trunnions were 48 inches (122 cm) above the mounting deck and recoil was 20 inches (51 cm). 4) Recoil distances depended on the type of ship the weapons were mounted on. Battleships and cruisers had short-recoil mounts, as their much heavier structures could absorb the forces involved, while smaller ships had longer recoils so as to reduce the peak force. 5) The number of mountings given above are as the ships were originally built or modified. These quantities changed during World War II, as some ships had these guns replaced by light AA or by the 5"/38 (12.7 cm) Mark 12. Conversely, USS Mississippi (BB-41) landed all of her 5"/51 (12.7 cm) SP guns and carried sixteen 5"/25 (12.7 cm) AA guns after her 1945 refit. 6) Some guns used on submarines may have been modified units that had been removed from the battleships. 7) Most mounts used a 1 hp elevating and 1 or 1.5 hp training motors with pneumatic ramming. The Mark 27 mods used on some Brooklyn (CL-40) class cruisers had 3 hp elevating and training motors and a hydraulic rammer driven from a 5 hp motor. 8) Many submarines had their 3"/50 (7.62 cm) gun replaced by a 5"/25 (12.7 cm) during World War II. USS Spadefish (SS-411), commissioned on 9 March 1944, was the first submarine with a 5"/25 (12.7 cm) gun as built. Submarines completed late in the war were typically equipped with two 5"/25 (12.7 cm) gun foundations, but had only one gun fitted. The gun was located forward or aft at the CO's discretion. In January 1945, USS Sennet (SS-408) was the first submarine fitted with two 5"/25 (12.7 cm) guns. After she made a very successful patrol with two other similarly armed boats, OpNav authorized this arrangement for any submarine whose CO wanted it. A major post-war goal for the US submarine force was to acquire enough 5"/25 (12.7 cm) guns so as to have two available for all active and reserve submarines. 9) Most submarines lacked effective surface fire control systems, but seven submarines (SS-229, 340, 399, 401, 406, 407 and 408) were converted to "gunboats" during 1945. These boats carried two 5"/25 (12.7 cm) guns, a Mark 6 stable vertical, a Mark 6 computer and a gun plot installed in the forward crew quarters. The computer drove repeaters at the guns. |
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