The design of these guns was faulty and one burst on trial in HMS Collingwood on 4 May 1886, even though she was firing 3/4 charges. The failure caused the "A" tube to break into pieces in front of the "B" coils. As a result, HMS Colossus was directed not to fire her main guns during her maiden cruise and all of these guns were withdrawn from service to be casehooped. They were then designated as Mark I* and mounted in the "No Man's Land" and "Horse Sand" coastal defense forts at Spithead. The ships were rearmed with newer, stronger 12"/25 (30.5 cm) guns.
Constructed of steel "A" tube into which the breech-block screwed, a wrought iron breech piece, three "B" coils of which the first was medium carbon steel and the others made of mild steel, one wrought iron "C" coil and a wrought iron jacket. There were no coils over the last 8 feet (2.44 m) of "A" tube at the muzzle end. All of the wrought iron parts were machined from hammer-welded coils. Mark I was a trunnioned gun for use in coastal defense batteries while the Mark II had thrust collars for naval saddle mountings, otherwise the two marks were identical. A total of 5 Mark I and 11 Mark II guns were manufactured.
Actual bore length was 25.13 calibers.
HMS Collingwood in 1882 with 12"/35 (30.5
cm) Mark II guns. She was later rearmed with 12"/25
(30.5 cm) Mark Vw guns.
|Designation||12"/25 (30.5 cm) Marks I and II|
|Ship Class Used On||Mark II: Colossus, Conqueror and Collingwood|
|Date Of Design||1882|
|Date In Service||1885|
|Gun Weight||43.8 tons (44.5 mt) inc. breech|
|Gun Length oa||328.5 in (8.344 m)|
|Bore Length||301.6 in (7.660 m)|
|Rate Of Fire||0.3 - 0.5 rounds per minute|
|Note: At target practice in 1887 HMS Colossus made record shooting by getting off four shots from one gun in six minutes and scoring three hits at 1,500 yards (1,370 m) while traveling at full speed (about 16 knots).|
|Projectile Types and Weights||AP - 714 lbs. (324 kg)|
|295 lbs. (134 kg) P.Br. (Prismatic Brown - cocoa)|
|Muzzle Velocity||1,914 fps (583 mps)|
|Approximate Barrel Life||N/A|
|Ammunition stowage per gun||N/A|
|Note: The original charge was 400 lbs. (181.4 kg) black powder and then reduced to 290 lbs. (131.5 kg) and finally to 220 lbs. (99.8 kg), the final figure being the charge used when the gun exploded. After rehooping, the charge was changed to the figure and type above.|
|Elevation||With 714 lbs. (324 kg) Projectile|
|Range @ 12.5 degrees||9,400 yards (8,600 m)|
|Range||Vertical Iron Plate|
|1,000 yards (9,140 m)||20.5 in (52 cm)|
|Note: Data from "British Battleships: 1850 - 1950."|
Colossus (2), Conqueror (1)
|Elevation||about - 3 / +10 degrees|
|Rate of Elevation||N/A|
(see Note 2)
|Colossus: 0 / about 170 degrees
Conqueror: -45 / +45 degrees
Collingwood: -90 / +90 degrees
|Rate of Train||N/A|
|Loading Angle||13 degrees|
1) The guns on these ships could only be loaded when the turret was trained to 0 degrees. The breech end of the weapons were lowered below the deck level by a hydraulic ram and then the charges were rammed into the breech from a compartment outside of the rotating structure.
2) The Colossus class had their guns in an amidships citadel with the turrets staggered. This allowed them to fire across the beam although it is not clear if blast effects limited their use in such a manner. They could also fire directly ahead but not directly astern. For the Conqueror class, owing to blast effects on the bridge, it was found to be inadvisable to fire these guns abaft the beam, so the arcs of fire were limited to the figures above. It is noted that Collingwood had no problems from blast effects when firing abaft the beam.
3) The designers worried that the enclosed nature of these turrets would trap propellant smoke, but it was found in practice that the long interval between when the guns were fired and they returned to the loading position gave sufficient time for the fumes to dissipate out the muzzles before the breeches were opened.
19 October 2007 - Benchmark
30 January 2009 - Fixed minor typographical errors
29 August 2010 - Added details about ship design and details of charge weight
15 October 2012 - Corrected typographical error