Description

During 1935 the Director of Naval Construction produced several design studies showing various alternatives for what became the King George V class battleships. One of these, designated 15C, was for a design with nine 15"/45 (38.1 cm) guns in three triple turrets. This design was considered to be one of the best proposals for these ships, but Treaty restrictions prevented the use of guns larger than 14" (35.6 cm). For this reason, work on designs with 15 and 16 inch (38.1 and 40.6 cm) guns was discontinued and only 14 inch (35.6 cm) designs were pursued.

Construction of these new 15" (38.1 cm) guns would not have resembled the older wire-wound 15"/42 (38.1 cm) Mark I. Instead, they would have been of an "all steel" design similar to the 14"/45 (35.6 cm) Mark VII guns actually used on the King George V class. They were to have had a new-gun bore diameter of 14.985 inches (38.06 cm) in order to reduce clearance and thus increase accuracy life with 6crh shells.

Each of these new 15"/45 (38.1 cm) guns would have been about 3 tons (3.1 mt) lighter than the old 15"/42 (38.1 cm) Mark I, even though the new guns were three calibers longer than the old ones. It must be kept in mind that weight reduction was an important consideration for all of the Treaty limited warship designs of the 1920s - 1930s. A weight savings of 27 tons (28 mt) for nine guns, plus the accompanying reduction in ship's structure, would be considered quite significant for that reason.

It is possible that the new 15" (38.1 cm) triple mountings would have had the same interlock and other reliability problems found with the 14" (35.6 cm) mountings actually used on the King George V class battleships, as they shared similar design concepts.

The data that follows is necessarily of a sketchy nature, as little formal design work was done on this weapon and no prototypes were ever produced.

Gun Characteristics

Designation 15"/45 (38.1 cm) Mark II
Ship Class Used On Proposed for the King George V class
Date Of Design 1935
Date In Service Not produced
Gun Weight 97 tons (98.6 mt)
Gun Length oa 697 in (17.704 m)
Bore Length 675.0 in (17.145 m)
Rifling Length N/A
Grooves N/A
Lands N/A
Twist N/A
Chamber Volume N/A
Rate Of Fire 2 rounds per minute

Ammunition

Type Bag
Projectile Types and Weights 1 2 APC Mark XXIIb (6crh) - 1,938 lbs. (879 kg)
HE Mark VIIIb (6crh) - 1,938 lbs. (879 kg)
Bursting Charge APC Mark XXIIb (6crh) - 48.5 lbs. (22.0 kg)
HE Mark VIIIb - 130 lbs. (59 kg)
Projectile Length APC Mark XVIIb - 65.0 in (165.1 cm)
HE Mark VIIIb - 67.0 in (170.2 cm)
Propellant Charge 430 lbs. (195 kg) SC 326
Muzzle Velocity APC 6crh - 2,510 fps (765 mps)
Working Pressure N/A
Approximate Barrel Life N/A
Ammunition stowage per gun N/A, but probably 100 rounds
  • ^The common assumption is that these guns would have used the same 6crh projectiles as were used for the older 15"/42 (38.1 cm) Mark I. The data in this table is for those projectiles used during World War II.
  • ^The 6crh projectiles are more properly defined as 5/10crh.

Range

Ranges of AP projectiles
Elevation Range
40 degrees 39,150 yards (35,800 m)

Armor Penetration with AP Shell

Range Side Armor Deck Armor
17,200 yards (15,730 m) 14.0" (356 mm) 2.0" (52 mm)
19,400 yards (17,740 m) 13.0" (330 mm) ---
21,700 yards (19,840 m) 12.0" (305 mm) 3.0"(76 mm)
24,500 yards (22,400 m) 11.0" (279 mm) ---
26,000 yards (23,770 m) --- 4.0" (102 mm)
28,000 yards (25,600 m) 10.0" (254 mm) ---
29,500 yards (26,980 m) --- 5.0" (127 mm)
32,500 yards (29,720 m) --- 6.0" (152 mm)

This data is from "British Battleships of World War Two" and is presumably for a muzzle velocity of 2,510 fps (765 mps). This table assumes 90 degree inclination and is based upon theoretical calculations performed in 1935, not actual firing trials.

Mount/Turret Data

Designation Three-gun Turrets
King George V (3): N/A, but probably Mark III
Weight N/A
Elevation -3 (?) / +40 degrees
Rate of Elevation N/A
Train About -150 / +150 degrees
Rate of Train N/A
Gun Recoil N/A
Loading Angle N/A, but probably +5 degrees

Sources

"British Naval Guns 1880-1945 No 1" article by John Campbell in "Warship Volume V"
"British Battleships of World War Two" by Alan Raven and John Roberts
"King George V Class Battleships" by V.E. Tarrant

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